Sounds a little fishy to me. Anybody remember Susan Smith???

This story does not really confirmed the truth yet.....1st what was she doing out driving around with 2 little babies at 2 a.m? She could not make the arrangment (assuming phone calls) from inside of the car??? Why would not she leave the kids in her own car and lock the door if she needed to leave them? In todays world that is what I would do especially in the states. She had no time to get licence plate?

If there was in fact a stranger in a green jeep cherokee there should of been description of the man from her and Amber alert right the way.

This does sound fishy and when it is a black male description to add to her credibility she fails the smell test.

off course the "black male" did it - i hope they take an extremely close look at her and not waste a lot of time chasing down the black phantom.

Normally I would say some of you are making some large assumptions but since the Casey Anthony debacle is seems like terrible parents have gotten some rather sick ideas about getting away with things.

I agree it sounds fishy...but there could be plenty of reasons for having kids in the car a 2am.

Also...everyone knows black men hate children!!! (that is a joke....just a joke. Not serious. Know a few excellent fathers who are black)

Also...everyone knows black men hate children!!! (that is a joke....just a joke. Not serious. Know a few excellent fathers who are black)

Although it's a bad joke regardless (not funny, and not even relevant -- a black man who hates kids wouldn't take two), there is no better way of killing a joke than to retract it as soon as it's said.

Lisa really...couldn't be a Good Samaritan because he's black...get real lady, the mother isn't telling the truth....

Something is not right with this. As a mom, there's no way my babies are getting into a strangers car. Make arrangements for the tow with your kids in your own car. Wait for the tow truck driver with your kids in your own car. Make arrangements for a ride home with your kids in your own car. Can't find one? Call a police officer to assist, with your kids in your own car.

What possible reason would her children need to be in a strangers car? Either stupid or she did something to them and is making this up. I do remember Susan Smith and her story of the black man that carjacked them.

Interestingly, there's one similarity this doesn't have to the Susan Smith case... the kids are black too.

Still, what's she doing out with babies that late? What's she doing leaving her babies accessible and unwatched with a stranger around? Something stinks about this and I believe we'll be getting some "shocking details" soon.

Hey mama, I never said anything about color. A good samaritan wouldn't take off with 2 children. Wow, just wow.

Anyone else read that into my statement?

The whole thing still sounds quite "fishy" but at least the children have been found unharmed.

This story does not really confirmed the truth yet.....1st what was she doing out driving around with 2 little babies at 2 a.m? She could not make the arrangment (assuming phone calls) from inside of the car??? Why would not she leave the kids in her own car and lock the door if she needed to leave them? In todays world that is what I would do especially in the states. She had no time to get licence plate?

If there was in fact a stranger in a green jeep cherokee there should of been description of the man from her and Amber alert right the way.

Most of what you said are good points BUT, why is she not allowed to drive with 2 kids at 2am? I do it all the time. Its none of your business why, but it isn't extremely unusual... Especially since the article clearly states that she had no home, and was moving from 1 hotel room to the next...

Some people like to focus on race. To me I don't care the color. Why would this woman not be in the car with her children making the arrangements? Why trust a total stranger to be alone in the car with her kids? I'm VERY glad she got them back safe and sound, that's just not always the case anymore.

Being from Georgia, the news we got was that the kids were found in the get away vehicle safe.....a passing car noticed the Jeep ( that had been put on the Amber alert radio) that was sitting where it should not have been and called the police. The kids were located about 60 miles north of where they were taken. They are still looking into it.

Yeah... Do that...

i don't know, this is smelling a bit off to me. Check the car to see if there is anything wrong with it, second check for blood. Granted there a lot of super sick people in this world who would take someone's kids, but she knows what he looks like, his car and maybe a name. I sure as hell wouldn't put my kids in a car of someone i didn't know, more so without getting their name. Sorry, just a little fishy to me...

ohplease-4144964 post 1.2

One reads to the end of this article, then is forced to ask "and?" Then one reads the account in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, ( once called only the Atlanta Constitution and once one of the better newspapers in America), and needs to ask,"well?"

Then one reads your post; another of the coulda, shoulda, woulda..... Yep, that is a good question: What in the hell is a mother with two babies doing riding around the streets of DeKalb County at 2:00 AM? For that matter any county in any state in the Union of States.

The cops have had almost 12 hours to locate these children. The clock is ticking. What is the news now? Where are these children? Your CSW means nothing in relationship to the real issue. You state that you are in search of the "truth." The truth is that what you say you would have done; had it been you is meaningless and does nothing to add to your quest for the truth. "Typical."

The babies didn't deserve what they got.

Ladies and gentlemen, the results are in; Allen 2635884 is the Jackass of the Day!

The kids did not deserve this, but Allen does have a point about how dumb this mother is. Where the hell did she go, and why just leave your kids to a total stranger, no matter how nice they are? Its actually the nice ones that scares me, because I have no clue what their intentions are.

Ya know when I see ladies broke down on the road I always wonder later if something bad happened to them.. Especially Old ladies. I do not know why more ppl do not have road side assistance or call the highway info lines for help...

You CANNOT trust anyone these days! And with that said...

I hope her children come home safe.. but this story doesn't add up.. I hope they are checking her story.. I do not know many women who would take help from a man at 2am regardless. I want to think we would wait on police. They will come by and see the hazards..

Trust no one! Especially the stranger you meet at 2:00 AM on the side of the interstate! I hope the kids are OK, but this really does sound shady.

Additionally, I blame Obama...

Point well made

Allen has a point. Praying after the fact is kind of useless since it was god that made theis "thin black man" take the kids in the first place. Is god going to have a change of heart and return the kids or is the "thin black man" going to return the kids?

It's called "free will", the thinker.

I really don't think it is necessary to turn this into yet another "yes there is no there isn't" discussion. While we may not always agree with how it's done, can we please just accept the well wishes of each other without the critique and arguments and stay on topic???

Actually, you can trust most people you encounter. Paranoia doesn't help much.

Allen so the kids deserved all this? ..... What the hell?

Agree..police better check everything out to be sure it was really a kidnapping.

Definitely my first thought too. 2am, no one around. I sure hope the highway patrol is looking at highway surveillance cameras to see if she was really driving by and if there was another vehicle in the vicinity too. Hope the kids are found safe.

My thoughts, as well. If she was making arrangements to have the car towed, then she had a cell phone. If she had a cell phone, she could have called 911 asking for help which would be the sensible thing to do with small children in the car. I really hope that we're the ones who are wrong with our suspicions but no matter what, I Pray the children get back safe soon.

I agree, something just doesn't add up. Unless the mother is a total idiot.

Sometimes, it is great to be wrong. This is one of those times. All I care about is that the children are safe and found. And yes, I give much Thanks to GOD for this Blessing.

Something definitely doesn't sound right in her story. If he is in a Jeep Cherokee how was she getting towed?? Why would she trust some random stranger at 2 am? I'd rather waited for the police. I hope those kids get home safely.

Amen to that. What a cock and bull story. What? She had her head up her butt while she talked on the phone and couldn't see this person removing 2 children from their child-restraint seats?

Yes, what the hell was she doing at 2am at night, just a little too convenient. I'd check the car to see why her car broke down first, I bet that will shed some light on her story.

Crazy! I don't believe her story for a second. This is right up there with taking babies out at midnight is freezing weather to go camping ... this is not going to end well.

To Chris: How traumatizing! I don't think this is a good method just because it worked for you. Some kids are more sensitive than others. Staging a "fake" kidnapping where the kids do not KNOW what is really happending can have LIFE LONG repercussions and they may never trust you again once the truth is revealed. A better way to "teach" your children this lesson would be to stage the kidnappings WITH THE KIDS KNOWLEDGE.......using several different scenarios while you teach them HOW to say "NO" to any strangers request, as well as showing them how to "run" the opposite way if the threat becomes escalated. Play acting is MUCH better for teaching than possilbly TRAUMATIZING a child for life! Please, Don't do this to your little Princess.

How did you teach her to stay away from the stove? Put her hands on a hot burner? Your idea sucks, and if I were your child's other parent, I'd kick your a$$ for even thinking about doing that to my child.

I am now 43 years old and have a 6 year old daughter, and I plan to do the same thing to her to see if she does in fact go off somewhere with a stranger because they say they have candy or a puppy.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! YOU ARE A LUNATIC, RAISED BY A LUNATIC. I urge you to seek help immediately. If I knew your true name and address, I'd have child services at your door so fast it would make your crazy head spin. People like you should not be allowed to reproduce. Seriously... you are very, very sick.

Chris, your dad sounds like a dick and your kid will have "daddy" issues when she grows up.

10 years ago, I would have told you, it is a bad idea because it will traumatize the kids. Today, unfortunately, living in a region where you hear crazy story EVERYDAY of wackos wandering off the streets looking for trouble, I would say,Yes, better a traumatized kid than a dead one.

To each their own, I say. But for those of you bashing Chris, here is a question for you. If you lived near a lake, what would be the best way to keep your kids safe from drowning in the lake? I bet for most of you, if you can, you would build a fence around the lake.

And precededby what ever, your the kind of people that makes this world worst not better.

Billy, Obviously you have never been "traumatized" in your life so you can not understand just how bad you can feel. Some kids are so traumatized it can take several years of therapy for them to be healed. I still do NOT agree with this method. There are better ways to get the message across.

Punisher: Yes I would build a fence around the lake, I would NOT pull them into the lake and hold them under for a minute or two just so they could "experience" what could happen if they didn't listen to me about the dangers of going in the lake. That too would be "traumatizing"! Think about what you just said.

Chris,

Sometimes kids need shock and awe however what if you give her a heart attack or something fom fear.. Might want to run this by your baby mama.

I hid from my kid in the store when he was 6 because he wondered off a lot. I ducked into the clothing rack and waited for him to cry because he thought he was lost before I came out. He never left me in public again..

Nowadays, if you staged a kidnapping like this, even with the best of intentions, your "assistant" may find himself getting arrested, shot, etc.

Chris....as a mental health professional. I would have to advise against doing something like this. The emotional ramifications of a traumatic event are not always experienced right away. You may feel like you are doing her a favor by teaching her a "lesson", but in reality, you are creating trauma for a child which can, in later life, cause anxiety, mistrust, animosity, and behavioral problems in school, home and other necessary settings. Please, for her own sake, just plan this a little better. I would suggest lots of talk about stranger safety, role playing (that which she is aware that it is not real), and positive praise when she gets it. Get her a whistle and teach her to scream but do not arrange an abduction. This is emotional abuse and is a form of child abuse if you want to get specific.

Um, opinion, if thats how you think, that is pretty sad. What ever happened to teaching them how to swim, that was the other choice, if you got it, you got it, if you answered like you did, then I feel for your kids.

I think if I lived around a lake, which I do, i would not build a fence around it to protect my children from it. I would teach them to swim. Not throw them into it to scare them away from it but TEACH them how to appreciate it and be safe while they do.

WOW! Extreme, but it worked! If you are planning on doing this to your daughter, I'd check with her mom first as this could cause one hell of a problem in your marriage if mom didn't know.

Punisher: I answered the way I did because I believed I was talking to a complete idiot who was not thinking of the obvious. If you want to build a fence around the pond fine. I taught my kids to swim at a very young age. I was not saying I would build a fence around the pond.....I was saying Yes building a fence around a pond would be ACCEPTABLE, but trying to "drown them" for the experiences sake ..... would not! Nuff Said. I am not here to "bash" Chris, but rather to plead with him to think of alternative ways to get his message across. What itzurgurlbeth said was EXACTLY was I was saying in my very first post! I was NOT bashing Chris.

LOL, My oldest says I traumatized him when he was little, because I told him NOT to talk to strangers, and then told him to say hello to the old men, packing groceries at the grocery store!! He DEFINITELY, would NOT speak to strangers.

The next two would probably jump in the car to find the puppy, and the youngest probably wouldn't. All four children taught the exact same lessons! I remember a tv show a few years back that parents gave permission, to have their kid's "fake kidnapped", none of the parents thought their child would fall for the "puppy" trick, and as I recall most if not all, DID!

Not to press the issue any longer, but I was just pointing out that your opinion was narrow minded. Not every child will learn from a cookie cutter outline, some needs to be taught the tough way. A good parent is also a good teacher and will always know how their child is like and teach them accordingly.

thepunisher-2054749 post 11.6 and 11.12 and I forget how many others.....

Duh........I was waiting until you phrased the question in a multiple-choice format. Then you had to spoil the fun by answering your own question. Have you noticed, on the news, the people who are paid to run their mouths are now using the technique of posing a question in their dialogue and then answering their own question? It is as common as their use of the phase; "that being said.."

In your 11.6 post you use this old phrase: " To each their own." My grand mother would use that from time to time, she would say: "to each his own, said the old lady as she kissed the cow."

From time to time I do appreciate your posts. Thank you.

itzurgurlbeth posts 11.11 and 11.13 As a "mental health professional" I think you would appreciate what Focus Adolescent Services is doing, among many other things like saving American children and stuff... www.Focusas.com

They have been floating the concept as a potential Socratic hypothesis, testing the waters so to speak of all of the mental disorders listed in the DSM....They want to know or are seeking to find if it is even a viable concept that all mental disorders are "trauma related."

You will, I think, find their work interesting, to say the least. It is my understanding that more than two million Americans visit their web site in need and that thousands call their free help line weekly. My thought is that if all the "professionals" begin to work together we would have happier children in our great country.

Bless your heart child.

I'd teach my child to swim. ("It's better to put on house slippers than to try to carpet the world.") I live near Lake Michigan; sometimes it's too dangerous to even wade in the water. My 10-year old has seen the lake in all conditions, and knows her moods. Knowledge is power. Trauma is trauma, however well-intended.

Oh, and I'm glad Miss Suspicious didn't kill her babies.

When the person actually does the ignorant act, there's nothing "trumped up" about it. I wish people like you would play in traffic to remind yourselves of the dangers of moving vehicles. Before you breed, please...

hey, mach, nothing like real world experience. Its no wonder kids these days are dumber than dirt. They can hack a pc, and have the best eye hand cordination around, but can't even survive in the back yard much less the real world. So before you breed any more ADD kids, please.

We are all to familiar with the dynamic. Sadly, it seems to happen several times every day in our country.

The real question is; do you just enjoy watching the drama unfold or are you doing something to put a stop to it?

I really doubt she had her kids in the sick f's vehicle dude. She was probably on the phone near her car when the perv grabbed the kids, threw them in his vehicle, and raced off...only took a few seconds. The kids were only 3 and 1 genius. Damn you make a lot of assumptions with very few facts. Hope they never put you on a jury...people that jump to immediate conclusions like you are just plain dangerous.

She was probably on the phone near her car when the perv grabbed the kids, threw them in his vehicle, and raced off...only took a few seconds.

JFN, I would read that post again if I were you. Accusing someone of making assumptions while you are making assumptions is really bad form. While you are at it, perhaps you should also reevaluate your ability to judge another's intelligence.

Lee, JFN is from Nebraska, what did you expect?

I expect people, regardless of where they are from, to put a little thought into it before they make inane remarks.

Damn you make a lot of assumptions with very few facts.

Really? I'm pretty sure in the article, it states the kids were in the back seat. What it DID NOT say was that he stopped and tossed them in the back of the truck- so your 'probably' statement was an assumption without the first bit of fact.

people that jump to immediate conclusions like you are just plain dangerous.

Are you thinking your monitor is the mirror or something?

That's good, very good; " Are you thinking your monitor is the mirror or something?" Is that yours and if so, may I borrow it?

I just thought of it, since his statement could be better applied if he said it to himself in the mirror... Dunno if someone else has said such before (I'm sure) but feel free.

@shenlee - did you say, "lucky enough"?

kat- shenlee was making the point that a child abductor who happens to find a broken down car with only a mother and two children in the middle of the night is pretty unusual and lucky for the abductor. Chill.

All of those are good questions.

Of course, she could've worked late, and was picking her kids up from a babysitter or 24 hour daycare center (there are a few of those out there). She may not have put the kids in the car, the "good samaritan" could've grabbed them and put them in the car.

Of course, she could've done something to them.

It's too early to know.

Either way, I agree - I hope the story doesn't end with ta corner's public address.

itzurgurlbethiitzurgurlbeth tzurgurlbeth posts 11.11 and 11.13 As a "mental health professional" I think you would appreciate what Focus Adolescent Services is doing, among many other things like saving American children and stuff... www.Focusas.com

They have been floating the concept as a potential Socratic hypothesis, testing the waters so to speak of all of the mental disorders listed in the DSM....They want to know or are seeking to find if it is even a viable concept that all mental disorders are "trauma related."

You will, I think, find their work interesting, to say the least. It is my understanding that more than two million Americans visit their web site in need and that thousands call their free help line weekly. My thought is that if all the "professionals" begin to work together we would have happier children in our great country.

Bless your heart child.