These bullies give good cops a bad rep. Lengthy trial with all the details drawn out, please, and a blistering sentence if found guilty.

Good Cop? Show me a Good Cop and i will show you a Good Liar..

Of course the courts will decide that this is all just a misunderstanding due to the language barrier there.

Interesting with all the judgement calls when there is basically zero information concerning the alleged profiling. All the article says is they targeted latino businesses, and latinos for traffic stops.

I, for one, would like more information before I make a judgement. Maybe more information concerning the percentage of latinos vs other races in the area the cops are stationed? If there is a higher percentage of latinos, then of course more latinos will be hit up by the cops. It's the same thing in Arizona. In the 2010 census, 29.6% are of latino orgin, 57.8% are white of no latino orgin. Mix in education levels, immigration, driving legally, language barriers, etc, and you will have a fairly high percentage of latino vs other races getting hit up by the cops.

It's pure math.

paragus

Good Cop? Show me a Good Cop and i will show you a Good Liar..

Hmmmm, been in jail much ROFLMAO

This country's laws against profiling are simply stupid because they help the criminal rather than helping law enforcement and making us safer.

Before jumping into conclusions, lets wait for the court's decision.

Criminal activity in this part of the country is at an all time high mainly due to illegal alien and drug activity. Residents are so sick and tired of all this and cops are fighting hard to keep residents safe....

In an all out war against an annoying and arrogant enemy; mistakes are made, but 99.999% of the cops are doing the right thing. Most of these illegals are so arrogant, they outright do the crime and when they get trapped; they claim mistreatment. What to do folks?

Give the cops a break....at some point you get tired when the government is not doing anything to stop the flow of illegals and drugs....the cops are left to fend for themselves with pistols, layoff, budget cuts and an irritating fully armed criminal that speaks little or no english but thinks they are entitled to full rights under the constitution....

Milo-2. lol!

Yo Alex ..What more information do you want ?

This is the FBI. Not some keystone cops. They were onto these bastards for several months and after a lengthy investigation found enough reason to book them. When FBI books someone they know they have reasonably strong evidence to get a conviction.

You must be one of those apologists for racist cops running amok. Evidence. Judgement. Blah !!!!

Many people on here are saying these cops are racists. The fact is that these, and pretty much every cop is a bully, without regard for skin color or ethnic origin. Ultimately, someone on here will preach the standard "well don't call 911 the next time you need the police." Many of us have had emergencies and crimes happen to us before, and never had to call the police. If we had, they would show up too late anyway. It sounds like more and more people are now aware how police operate and it is a very sad state indeed.

What you ALL fail to mention is the reality of cops.

They are a revenue stream...nothing more nothing less.

When seconds count don't call a cop that is minutes...days....weeks away. Call Remington.

Funny thing about Remington. When I moved to Chicago a COP was breaking into my apartment (Police said it was just a bad judgment call by the officer.. one off). Remington works against off duty police performing illegal actions as much as the common crook. No wonder they do not want us armed.

4 down, a few million to go.

myspellcheckerisbroken and others, it's very sad the way that you view police officers. Stories like this obviously show that not all policemen are honorable, and abuse their position of power... HOWEVER, the majority of officers are NOT this way and are out there doing their jobs in order to protect the general public and ensure that laws are enforced so that a state of anarchy and chaos does not take over. They are willing to sacrifice their lives for YOURS. I think maybe you should keep that in mind in the middle of projecting your prejudice onto "every cop" out there.

ElMeroSabroso

Bigotry and stereotyping aside; may I coordially request those that respond to an article to not use "Me thinks" in place of "I think"?

Those that use the phrase "me thinks" should be reminded they are not Popeye, no matter how much spinach they eat.

Thank You.

To comment on the article, it was only a matter of minutes that the word ILLEGAL would be tossed around here like red meat in a lion's den. Racial profiling historically in this country has been prevelant in law enforcement before, without legal status as an issue. funny how Americans who fortunately haven't experienced racial profiling ignorantly post the ILLEGAL garbage as a cop out to blame the easiest target...IMMIGRANTS.

Racial profiling by definition; "refers to the discriminatory practice by law enforcement
officials of targeting individuals for suspicion of crime based on the
individual's race, ethnicity, religion or national origin." Legal status is not included.

Blaming undocumented immigrants for racial profiling of Latino's is a false entity, most likely perpetuated by those easily influenced by extreme talk radio, or the inability to research and think for themselves. Either that, or "ME THINKS" they haven't a clue to the matter.

Thanks again.

Atte: ElMeroSabroso

Hmmmm, me thinks you lack a sense of humor. By the way there is no such thing as the (PC)undocumented immigrant. Illegal Alien is the correct statement for anyone that is in the US illegally.

This is why minorities and minority communities have no relationships with law enforcement, nor do they want one. They would rather deal with their own internal violence and gangs on their own rather than deal with the police.

And to all the racist bigots out there, this has nothing to do with undocumented immigrants. Stop turning this country into Amerikkka.

Maybe police officers are just getting tired of repeatedly arrestting the same illegals time after time only to have them released or deported and back within a week. Undocumented=illegal=they are breaking the law to be here. We would save millions every year if the government would enforce the immigration laws. There are entire communities that do not speak English. Why should American police officers have to learn a 2nd language to be able to enforce the laws of this country. Those who want to be here and do so legally need to be required to learn English. If they are so upset by profiling then perhaps they'd better start policing their own and run the criminal rapists, theives, gang banging, drug dealing, murdering scumbags straight back to Mexico and warn them not to come back. Nobody ever wants to answer the question: Why don't they stay in their own country and fight there for change and reform and stop the criminal element from owning their country???? Is it because its' easier and safer to come here and mooch off of our government than to work hard to straighten up their own????? Try reading the immigration laws Mexico has!! Much tougher than Americas'. If Mexico and the other countries want to participate in NAFTA then they should all be following the laws. What right does Mexico have to insist we're guilty of human rights violations when their countrymen are the ones committing the atrocities aginst immigrants passing thru Mexico to get to America.? What right does Mexico have to insist that we kept their scum of he earth criminals here in America?? Why don't they deal with their own?? OOPS..forgot MExico is run by the drug cartels and our government is handing them weapons and taking their cash. Time to take names and kick butt. Clean house on our government then get the illegals all deported!!!!!!

@ elmero sabroso, perhaps the person who wrote "me thinks" is creolese, or else was using shakespearian english. Give us all a break, this is a comment board, not a dog-gone proper english class. I swear its so frustrating to come on and read comments to see what people think and then you get to these commenters who only come on to identify and correct other's bad spelling, grammar and punctuation. I am 100 % sure YOU don't know EVERYTHING, so to all you correctors out there, here is a BIG cup of SHUT THE %$#@ UP. As far as the racial profiling goes, I am WHITE and it has happened to me, so I can only imagine what "people of color" go thru. Because I lived in a primarily latin neighborhood (in the Bronx) I was arrested for NO reasonand spent 24 hours in central booking, standing room only. I absolutely had not broken ANY law and my case was dismissed. I had asked one of the 8 officers that surrounded me if it was illegal to walk down the sidewalk in the bx and he said yeah you can't do that here. And people wonder why some cops get shot for apparently no reason. Cops , please TRY to do your jobs with care and without harassing people and profiling minorities. Eventually, when the people of this country finally does grow some, They WILL stand up to you, believe it.

COMOMMY

In this recession where many families are unable to pay for the fees, fines and financial requirements that the state, county & local governments charge while having obligations like insurance, medical coverage, high food prices, high gas prices and high interest on loans. Folks are being arrested again and again for not being able to pay these fines or charges requested by the government.

For instance if someone does not have the money for their registration, inspection or a ticket they received after 30 years of driving due to the uptick in tickets because of budgets constraints. Not only will they eventually go to jail if they don't come up with the money but, because of a lack of finances they will end up losing a lot more than their freedom because of a lack of mobility that they were used to is caused.

This prevents them from effectively providing for their children and sets them back beyond belief.
If you check the arrests in the area and see how many folks are arrested who haven''t committed a crime other not having money to pay fines in order to drive, you will be blown away.

I don't think the police are bad I think they have the wrong focus.

GO AFTER REAL CRIMINALS AND NOT REGULAR CITIZENS WHO DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PAY THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!

No One Should be ARRESTED FOR DRIVING INFRACTIONS unless they are a danger to others or are intoxicated. "PERIOD"

Therefore, if this country allows for this to happen then.... IT IS A POLICE STATE!!!!

I think the government just needs to find more creative ways to get this income other than disrupting the lives of families who are trying their best to make it in this society but are faced with a lack of jobs that the government helped to send overseas.

The least the government can do, is understand that a number of it's members have sold Americans out financially and now they and their friends have all of the money so, go after yourselves and your friends for this income.
We Ain't Got It...
It's just making the majority of us who have lost a lot because of the recession & these tactics even more pissed off.

Normally I would agree that more information is needed. However, I think what we are seeing here is an outpouring of peoples concerns that there is indeed profiling going on. And for our laws to have merit and be respected it has to stop! And, there are good cops out there (the overall majority), that we should be supporting, but that can only happen when the bad cops are removed... YMMV

A lot of people are glossing over the fact that a man was arrested for video taping these incidents of illegal detainment.

That speaks volumes to me about the legality of what these cops have been doing.

What I find interesting is all the assumptions and arrogance here. Without knowing all the details there's no way to tell who exactly the affected are. What makes one assume that because the victims are Hispanic they're automatically illegal aliens? I don't know, they could be, but unless I have any inside info as of this moment, it would be irresponsible from my part to assume. In fact the very idea that they're from Mexico is less probable for this is in the northeast of the US, typically you find a higher concentration of Mexicans, or descendants from Mexicans for that matter, in the southwest. They might even be of Puertorican heritage, US citizens by the way, but there's a growing Dominican community as well. Again, assuming they are illegal aliens just because they're Hispanic is irresponsible. In fact I don't see any Native American name among the officer's. Spaulding (Scottish), Zullo (Italian), etc, all immigrants. But yes, Usonians have a VERY short memory. BTW I would love to see the source for statistics about that 99.999%. It doesn't matter what your feelings, or lack of, are about this, it's a matter of a bunch of officers breaking a law or regulation. You know, those crazy things that apply to everyone. I think is time that we start rethinking arrogance, bigotry, and posturing; it paints an ugly picture.

The Border Patrol profiles people every hour of every day. Thats their job!

"Hmmmm, me thinks you lack a sense of humor."

LOL

" “The public should not need protection from those sworn to protect and serve. In simple terms, these defendants behaved like bullies with badges.” "

Me thinks somebody needs to tell my local PD this.

Me thinks! ;-)

@MrIndia,

The FBI is federal, and I trust federal employees of any kind the least of all law enforcement. They are further removed from a community that local authorities. Quite nice of you to jump to conclusions and say I support racist cops, the race card is always the first pulled up by a liberal. Too bad it's quite outdated and old, find a new excuse for burying your head.

Concerning the article, it's been updated since I last read, and it does sound like (to me anyways) that there are valid complaints against the cops that should be investigated.

"Me thinks" that if the FBI did a thorough enough investigation, they would find this 'bully with badges' behavior is rampant throughout the country.

To all you cop worshippers who say (again, I might add) that this is just an isolated incident, most cops are good, rotten apples give them all a bad name, etc., answer me this:

Why, then, did it take the FBI to bring these "bad apples" to justice? Why couldn't (or wouldn't, more likely) the East Haven PD police itself? Do you actually expect us to believe that NO ONE from the EHPD knew about this?

ElMeroSabroso,

I agree 100% with you're comment. I understand exactly what you are saying.

I am a minority. for no reason, I have been shuot and put-down by police a few times. I try not to make it a deal, I over-come. because nothing physical has happens, I try to undestand their jobs. I know there are many out of control individuals making the police' job very hard. that said, I got to say, that there are many good police officers out there that don't let you down, and I am very happy for that.

That's a typical law enforcement tactic that was used repeatedly during the NYC Occupy Wall St protests--beat up a protester, then arrest him or her on some trumped up charge to cover up the assault. Video captured most of those incidents clearly. And these protesters were white--although, perhaps, because they are protesting they are degraded in the eyes of police.

The good news is that some of this stuff is finally being acknowledged. Carry a digital recorder in your pocket...but that's another reason for arresting you, to confiscate all evidence.

Version:0.9 StartHTML:-1 EndHTML:-1 StartFragment:0000000111 EndFragment:0000000392 Quite nice of you to jump to conclusions and say I support racist cops, the race card is always the first pulled up by a liberal. Too bad it's quite outdated and old, find a new excuse for burying your head.

How is it the race card when the subject of the article, case and discussion is racist cops? They are specifically being accused of targeting a minority community for illegal policing. That is racism, ma'am, not a hand of poker.

Well, first off, I'm not a ma'am... at least last I checked :)

By saying I support racist cops (which I never said I supported the cops, I just said I wanted more evidence before coming to a conclusion), that is tandem to saying I'm racist, which I'm not.

I don't support racism of any kind, including racism towards whites which is actually quite rampant in this country. But it's being done by minorities, so that's ok.

Why is it ok? Seriously, people defending themselves against an accusation of racism, who decide to bring up reverse racism, really make me question whether or not they even get the point.

Also, for the record, no it is not quite rampant in this country. Minorities do not yet have the social and economic status to even begin to touch the range and effect of institutional racism in America. It's not even close.

There is no such thing as reverse racism. Racism is racism is racism. The term "reverse racism" has never made sense. Minorities may not have the social and economic status (some do, see current President of the United States), but since when did poor whites raping black women and beating up black men ever need social or economic status. Minorities, can be racist and some of them most certainly are even against other minority races. I took Alex's comment "so that's ok", as sarcasm. Because in no way is any form of racism against anyone ok but people ignore it if it's against the great white evil because we're the ones always being accused of racism.

Bigotry and stereotyping aside; may I coordially request those that respond to an article to not use "Me thinks" in place of "I think"?

It's 'methinks,' not 'me thinks' and it's a legitimate word. It's a verb and it means "It seems to me". You may be as cordial as you wish but you're terribly wrong in your assumption that it's not proper.

I guess ElMeroSabroso never read Shakespeare.

Capt Tripps

Also, for the record, no it is not quite rampant in this country. Minorities do not yet have the social and economic status to even begin to touch the range and effect of institutional racism in America. It's not even close

Yeah, it is rampant. Cops don't only use the 'bully with a badge' attitude against minorities, they distribute that treatment equally amongst all races.

Hey, I look at it this way..If I am looking for the people causing trouble, look for the trouble makers. Sorry if this is racist. I see a guy covered in tats, shaved head, driving around in high crime areas, I would check it out. This does not mean every day joe. These cops can decide who is a gangster and who is not, most of the time. if you want to cover yourself in ink, dress and act like trouble, dont get pissy if someone notices.

That was kind of my point,that reverse racism is a myth, racism is racism regardless of who it's targeting, or by whom. I just didn't like the whole role reversal he attempted at the end.

And I only thought racism happened in the South...............

Because the liberal media has trained you to think that!

Racism is everywhere. However it is in the South that they want to make it easier.

I hope you are kidding Rob... Unfortunatly it is happening ALL over. In this day and age.... How are our kids suppose to feel good about coming up in this crazy world with STUPID people in charge??? Grow up all you adults who think you are so much better than everyone else BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN!! And YES! I am a white girl. I was not rasied to see color , but who that person is. To bad so many other people were not raised this way.

there is a lot less racism in the south than any norther city.... go check it out if you dont believe it, just dont pull @!$%# out of your ass.

WOW-1552255

Because the liberal media has trained you to think that!

WOW, you sound exactly like Clayton Brigsby. "Don't let the liberal meeedia, tell you how to think and feel! If you have hate in your heart, let it out!" - Clayton Brigsby

If they were profiling...so be it. Throw them in court and prove it.

What I want to know is how the gov has resources for this and not to remove the million illegals that live blocks south of me on the southside of Chicago?

I know I know. Sorry to profile illegals. Just to give you a heads up....when the gravy train runs out there will be the largest standing Army in the USA that is not the US military.... it is La Raza and their troops.

Rob, thank you. I am so tired of folks thinking that it is only racist or more in the south. At least in the south, you know when folks hate you, they tell you to your face unlike some folks in other parts of the country who hid it. Candace, what Rob says is true. How many articles have you read where folks are surprised when something racist happens in another state? I'm saying nothing surprises me.

@killerteam,

I will have to agree with you. We just moved the north to Ga and there seems to us to be alot less racism in the south...

Racist? Were the Hispanics illegal immigrants, people that should not be in our country? Were these people that have broken our laws, are taking our jobs, committing crimes, enjoying free health care, free education, free food stamps and pay little to no taxes? I am against racism, but as a vet, I didn't serve in the military to protect the rights of illegal foreign invaders.

Funny , can't get any cops arrested for racially profiling black americans..

What I want to know is what the "found guilty" rate for the arrests were.

If they were harassing innocent people, then yup, put them away, BUT if those they targeted were guilty of crime, then the were just doing good police work.

NOT investigating a crime BECAUSE someone is of "color" is also discrimination.

the FBI would have a Field Day in Los Angeles

valhallaawren: I like living in the south, cause down here, you can you can say anything you want about someone, as long as you add a "bless their heart" or "God love 'em" at the end.

For example...."you putrid, lying, gutter pile of f-ing DOG S#IT!!....bless your little heart.".

See how disarming that is ;-)~

Who in their right mind believes that the FBI is so honnest and forthright?? Corruption happens everywhere. Including Washington DC with the politicians that want the illegals here so they can get then voting status! Honestly some of you people jsut don't get it. We don't need to be in wars with overseas countries. Our troops need to be here protecting our borders and deporting illegal criminals. If we don't do something about it and soon we'll have serious trouble. Every day more and more illegals pour into this country. How many boots on the ground do you think Mexico already has here in AMerica????????????

jw101...Leave Congress out of this. We're talking about illegal immigrants.

I lived it CT for about 15 years and a majority of the Hispanics out there are Puerto Rican. Last time I checked, they were American citizens. By the way, I am white and got pulled over in a black neighborhood. Cop told me the reason why I was pulled over was because I was white and in the kind of neighborhood. Profiling goes both ways.

hate/ racism is more apparent in the Legal Forces than the Civil Sector..it used to be the other way around, however, WE evolved into a more empathetic divergence of; Intelligent Human Beings...too bad OUR; Justice System is SO CORRUPT; which BTW is Ghastly Shown in our prisons, jails & internal sectors..i SAY, the Writing is on the WALL & Only the Very Wise are of the Clues........

Candace- please go alone and unarmed to your nearest ghetto on a Friday and Saturday night or go visit mexico (age of consent 12yo)and ask to see a burro show. There is a reason that 2000year old aquaducts still provide european cities with water and whites fly to africa to dig wells. That is because one group evolved for high IQ and the other to outrun predators. This can be seen as one group had calculus before the other developed writing

Funny thing is from before hispanics counted as white when they commit crime hispanics where 19 times more likely to be gang members than whites so it shouldn't be suspicious if they get arrested 19 times more often. Mexico has an age of consent of 12 so mexican men see little girls as fair game, as do muzzies since moohamad had multiple wives under 10. Illegal invaders are a huge drain on resources a single preemie anchor baby can cost taxpayers over $200k before it leaves the hospital.

valhallaarwen, well said.

killerteam, agreed.

CNR...LOL!!! You do come up with some of the funniest posts. TY.

Candace, you're correct. I'd much rather make a friend than worry about where their great grandparents came from. One of those little things that no one can change so why bother???!!!! :)

I've lived up north and there's nothing like living in the south. It's my home and I'm glad I'm here.

Had these people been from the middle east nobody would care.

"I like living in the south, cause down here, you can you can say anything you want about someone, as long as you add a "bless their heart" or "God love 'em" at the end.

For example...."you putrid, lying, gutter pile of f-ing DOG S#IT!!....bless your little heart.".

See how disarming that is ;-)~"

LOL And nothing racist there. Well said!

Conservative my point was the following, when David Duke came out he told you straight up that he didn't like black folks. That is my point. In other places, you don't know who likes you are not, folks will be in your face and then talking about you bad. As for your example, I have never heard anything like that. No one uses that and then say bless your heart. I never said it wasn't racist in the south, I just want to state it is like there everywhere in this country and I don't know why folks think it is better elsewhere. If that is the case, why did this happen in Connecticut? Why all the problems in New York with blacks and cops and in Arizona? Those places are not in the south.

Just for the record, I went to mixed schools my whole life in the south until I lived in Los Angeles where I attended an all black high school. That was not normal to me.

valhall: I was using an absurdity, and a bit of southern culture, to make a joke. I didn't intend for the comment to be taken literally.

That said, I agree with you that racism can be found anywhere, and is not relegated only to the south. I think racism sucks anywhere it appears.

3 ups for Steve? Really? Is that the Southern Hospitality ya'll are referencing?

My 2 cents - no way no how is the North worse race wise than the South. I've lived in both, I've traveled in both. It's not even close. I don't personally know a single minority who would do anything but laugh long and loud at that assessment. The worst is the mid east and west tho, the South at least has the history and large populations of minorities, they might not like em but they are used to them and a certain restraint exists, some of the flyover states tho, it's like they've only ever seen a black person in a museum.

Also to Steve - Calculus was invented in the 1600's, the Egyptians were building pyramids 5,000 years before that. While most of Europe was still @!$%#ing sheep. Oh, and a little thing called Hieroglyphics.

Ha! Who are you morons who collapsed this? Do you really believe there are not many more departments using racial profiling? Or is it that you think it's a good idea? Since you left no comments, I suspect the latter.

You are right!

Los Angeles, San Diego, Chicago, New York, You name it, Profiling is taking place everywhere. But it is not just race, it is gender and age as well. Not to mention the number of envious cops who will write You for driving the wrong car at the wrong time at the wrong place.

"I think all Americans should arm themselves and the next time we see a cop (any cop), we say, "I feared for my life," and put a round right in the head."

You're not wrong, Sugar. Unfortunately, this DEFENSE only works for the cops.

Sad, I know.

(3 posts & 3 drunk tests..............sheesh!)

Elena:

The only good cop is a dead cop you say??? Hmmmm, I bet you would change your mind if you were being brutally beaten and raped and the looking for the cops to help your sorry ass out! You are a poor excuse for a human being and a pathetic loser!!

"I bet you would change your mind if you were being brutally beaten and raped and the looking for the cops to help your sorry ass out!"

1) there is absolutely no way to know if she has already dealt with this issue or not, but perhaps this reason (or the one stated) is the reason that she feels the way she does.

2) she's entitled to her opinion.

3) have you ever heard of the cops showing up & actually stopping a rape in progress???

Bunkie11, when seconds count the cops are only minutes away...and they are not legally required to help you.

I was considering putting up a sign by my doors that said: "This house protected by the firm of Ithaca, Smith & Wesson." My lawyer said: "Don't! It could be considered premeditated."

What??? (shocked face)

I do not condone racism but if the statistics say that a certain group of individuals are committing a crime, why not give extra attention to that group. Bullying and harassing is not acceptable but proactive police work is. If someone is driving around at 3 in the morning, that individual will stand a greater chance of being pulled over. If you have done nothing wrong, you are on your way. I am not saying these scenarios are equal, but there are some similarities. As a Teenage white kid with long hair growing up 70's and early 80's, I was pulled over alot. I understand being profiled.

So if the stats say that a majority of white women kill their kids, I am supposed to pay attention to white women who are out with their children in public? Cops do profile and don't feel bad about it. They deserve to be caught.

What kind of world is this where if you are not a certain Race you are autmatically on Welfare or a Drug addict. We are all a part of the Human Race, it is so very sad. There are good and bad people in every race however, some people are taught to be racist. All I can say is it does not matter what color you are if you are rich or poor, Republican or Democrat we are all Human. I have ran into some very nice Policeman and some really bad ones. Unfortunately, even though it is 2012 some things just stay the same if you are a Minority in this Country then you know what I'm talking about. God made us different for a reason. Just viewing some of the comments posted it is evidient we have a long way to go. Peace........

@BlessedP "What kind of world is this where if you are not a certain Race you are autmatically on Welfare or a Drug addict."
I live in Los Angeles, ever been there or any other big city? There are two races that have made inner cities very scary places to live.

junglejim,

"...extra attention..."?!! Why that would mean that they would be taking a closer look at those that are comitting crimes!! Outrageous! Not to mention politically incorrect, in todays' chickencrap world.

Read the story... The profiling is the tip of the iceberg. It's pretty clear from the story that there was also mistreatment of people who were hispanic.

@Blessed...You are right, humans are humans.Snakes are snakes.There are poisonous ones and harmless ones.If you walk outside and see a rattlesnake that you know thats not supposed to be there and a garter snake in the same yard, are you going to treat them the same?No!Get out of your little bubble and look at reality for a second.All of your peace, love and granola isnt gonna make it ok for somebody to be here illegally or stop them from committing an alarmingly high amount of crime.If they(police) get a call that another green person committed a robbery, rape or whatever, damn right theyre gonna be looking for the green person that did it!Look at the whole picture before you start lumping everyone into "the human race as one".You have a very simple mind and its people like you that make me sick to my stomach.

Valhal- Do you realize the math behind your statement" if stats say the majority of white women kill their kids"? That means that more than every second white woman you meet would be a murderer. Any group that was a majority felons should be profiled. In a crybaby" let felons vote article" it was stated that 28% of voting age black men would be convicted of a felony in their lifetimes. Thats only about one out of every three black men being a felon and thats enough for blacks to cry that felony voting restrictions are raasssesss, when in fact 2/3 of black men are not convicted felons, but may have done lesser crimes. So despite having a crime rate many times that of whites/asians the majority of blacks are not convicted felons.

Here is some white math to help explain it to you. Detroit has a murder rate of 34.4 murders per 100,000 population per year, one of the highest in the US. Still the majority of people in detroit are not murders they are just several times the rate of everyone else(worldwide avg is 9.8) In order for the majority of people in detroit to be murderers the murder rate would have to be multiplied by more than 1453 times the current worse rate.

Mother nature and evolution are not fair she said you guys have to outrun predators ill make you faster, you other guys have to plan/build/store for winter ill make you smarter.

It just so happens that hispanics are 19 times more likely to be gang members than whites. Simply being an illegal invader is a crime. The age of consent in mexico is 12 would you let your 13yo daughter/neice be around them?

Yeah keep an eye on Pedro and Tyrone. That's fine. That's what probation is for.

You don't keep an eye the guy shopping in the ethnic foods section because someone got robbed at a taco stand.

We all love to give up our personal freedoms for a little bit of temporary security. And we really are losing both. This is a 200 year old lesson that we've yet to learn.

Thank you for your Racial Profile Comment Mr. Sanchez, two Races really!!! Have a nice day Sir.... 

The FBI Arrests 100 Italians involved in organized crime in NY. That's called justice. Cops pull over Latinos or blacks or other minority. That's called racial profiling.

The only two that cause the most trouble, robberies, rape murder ETC! The only two that think someone owes them something, right on Mr. Sanchez, your right on it sir..

Everyone profiles, and everyone is prejudice to an extent. It is a natural animal function throughout the animal kingdom..............The difference is, humans live by laws which forbids acting out on prejudices.

These are actually white criminals so it cant be deescrimminatooon.

Look at the Texas 10 most wanted fugitive list to see the face of white crime. Mexicans, colombians, central americans are counted as white when they commit crimes but hispanic when they are victims.

On the Texas 10 most wanted fugitive list for today 1-24-12 every person listed as white is mestizo and belongs to mexican/colombian gangs, the most wanted is Javier Morin jr who is listed as "white" but his skin is the color of sh!t, and belongs to a mexican gang, while the whitest guy on this is not listed as white

A few (couple) centuries ago, white people were scared to death of Native Americans. Oh, what murderers and thieves they all are! How sad it took us so long to figure out how we ("white man") brought so many of those problems on himself. And here we go again - making enemies of our neighbors while refusing to grasp the "big picture" of how we just might bear some ownership for all these issues, and deal with them in a rational manner. Clearly, in the land of "personal responsibility," we just aren't there yet. What a pity.

statistically speaking, more white people are involved in drunk driving accidents than any other race.

I dont understand why we arent randomly pulling over white people, and randomly giving breathalizers.

we'd sure as hell get a lot of drunks off the roads.

but something tells me white people wouldnt stand for that.

If someone is driving around at 3 in the morning, that individual will stand a greater chance of being pulled over

Only if that person is some sort of shade of brown. Take a look at my picture, I'm about as "white girl" as you get, and I've definitly done my fair share of driving around at 3am. Never once has I, or any other who looks similar to me (that I know of at least) been pulled over simply because the officer wanted to know what we were doing out and about.

Proactive police work isn't profiling, it begins with community outreach and building trust with your citizens. This is the opposite, if true, of proactive police work. You can not take a protected class (i.e. race, religion, national origin, gender) and use it as the sole reason for stopping someone. If a crime has been committed and a witness has given a discription which includes a protected class, than you can stop members of that class, who fit that description, not just blanketly stop everyone who's the same color.

Common things are common. When Pedro and Tyrone account for most of the problems, it makes sense to keep an eye on Pedro and Tyrone.

Yes, but only on Pedro and Tyrone, not everyone who shares their race.

The FBI Arrests 100 Italians involved in organized crime in NY. That's called justice. Cops pull over Latinos or blacks or other minority.

Because, those specific Italians had committed a crime! Now, how would you feel, if the cops were randomly stopping anyone with a vowel at the end of their name and questioning them about possible links to the mafia???

What is a "protected class"?? Where does being an illegal alien fit into that?? They are criminals.

In this country there are a lot of people involved in drunken driving and driving without a license that while being guilty never get in much trouble as a result of the stop. They just go out and do it again and again. With a new identity. They are illegals. I wonder what race/ethnicity they are?

Skrewed,

There may be members of many races here without documentation, but that doesn't mean that we suspect ALL members of those races or national origins of being here illegally. Do you believe that we should poop all over the rights of legal/natural citizens that look Mexican?

Remember probable cause??? Most seriel killers are white men, do we than stop all white men and randomly question them? Remember the burden of proof? Remember due process? You can't be all up in arms about their illegal status, and than break the law in how you handle the issue, that would be the height of hypocracy. Either you follow the Constitutional requirements, or you don't, and SCOTUS has ruled in Plyler v Dough, that people, regardless of their immigration status, are afforded the protection of the Constitution.

Larry,

Sources? Citations? Anything to back that up, other than a personal story?

So if that's the case then it's OK for the FBI to track down everyone on here who mentions drugs/marijuana should be legalized and search your house, vehicle, etc. Because YOU by your own statements are more likely to be breaking the law and possessing illegal drugs. Profiling is always fine as long as it's not YOU they are pulling over every week, or following around the supermarket, or eying suspiciously if you're walking around after dark. Why should a group of 4 black teenagers walking around together be treated any different then a group of 4 white teenagers? But the police in most suburbs would stop and harass one group and not the other... guess which one.

I'm seeing a lot of racist comments on here, and my only hope is that most of them are from immature kids, individuals with the intelligence of a kid, or people who just like to incite others. Ghettos are dangerous not because of the individual's ethnicity but because of poverty, frustration and hopelessness...

I love how people quote the media statistics like it's the gospel. Just because the media makes it seem like blacks and mexicans are the primary issue doesn't make it so. I've worked with a police officer part-time, and this is what he told me about the area he patroled. The biggest problems in that area are whites and asians. But the local news says different. Who would you believe? A guy on here also said blacks and mexicans are why LA is so scary. They claim that random killings are happening and it just isn't true. Majority of the people that get killed in LA aren't random killings. They tried to play a few peoples killings that I knew as random acts on the news, and it wasn't true. If anything Calabasas and Glendale are the true issues. My aunts bf works for Glendale police, and he'd rather we live in intercity LA then the valley. Why, because when they go on bust they find rocket launchers, insane amounts of drugs, etc. And according to main stream media these are the greatest places to live. I'll tell you this I've never been to parties in LA where they are letting crack smoke up in the air weed definitely but crack never. Can't say that for valley parties though, and where talking teenage parties seven years ago. Cops profile certain people because they don't like them, and they need to meet there quota. Quotas are not a mythe they are very much true. Don't allow the media to determaine how you think majority of it is lies to get you to tune in. Like immigration issue it's all propaganda, and in the end we will be hurting big time if we continue to show prejudice against these people. The price of produce is going to rise and companys are going to go out of business because of this. They only people trying to avoid paying taxes are the rich. They hide tons of cash in Swish banks every year, and our government allows it. So wake up and kill this prejudice thinking before the police and government deem the people that own more than three guns a threat. We'll see what you have to say about profiling then. Probably the samething that us blacks and Mexicans say or in the words of a beggit "whine and complain about"

Connecticut only? Uh uh. Cops everywhere are bullies with badges. Not all, but probably the majority over all.

Derek-381097

There's always some jerks and bullies in uniform that give good police officers bad names. May all the facts come out about this and the sentence be as heavy as possible if found guilty.

What we are seeing these days is exactly the reverse: Some good police officers are allowing the police to maintain some semblence of respectability. Bully behavior has become commnoplace and murder by cop of unarmed men, and women and children, and the nonviolent mentally ill has become almost unremarkable. There is no outside oversight. And now they are being trained and equipped as soldiers. Soldiers only know one thing: Kill the 'enemy'. From all appearances, We the People are now the 'enemy'.

Valhallaarwen says, "So if the stats say that a majority of white women kill their kids, I am supposed to pay attention to white women who are out with their children in public?"

A MAJORITY? If only one (name your ethnic group) woman in ten killed her children, I would pay close attention to women of that ethnic group. I would pay especially close attention to women of that ethnic group if I worked for Child Protective Services. So the answer to your STUPID question is a big fat YES.

Texas R, I am totally with you and I do not call that profiling but experience and lessons learned!

@William B--you hit it out of the park. Since 9/11, many people in this country have used our "security" as an excuse to militarize the police in this country. As you say, the military really is trained and equipped to do one thing--kill people and blow things up. That is not what policing is all about. What a tragedy we have become. So very sad that my country, that I served for 20 years and my father before me for 27 years, has come to this.

A MAJORITY? If only one (name your ethnic group) woman in ten killed her children, I would pay close attention to women of that ethnic group. I would pay especially close attention to women of that ethnic group if I worked for Child Protective Services.

Well, it's a good thing there's no "gene" in black people, brown people, white people, or any color of people, or any national origin of people, or any religion of people, that is linked to violent tendencies. See, THAT is why we don't profile, because it isn't the race that makes you committ the crime, it's the sociological factors you live in.

Saying that it's the race, or national origin, just excuses us from dealing with the real issue. Blaming it on black, brown, red, yellow, green, blue... is so much easier than actually having to evaluate ourselves and our society, isn't it?

“behaved like bullies with badges,”

Doesnt that usually describe most of them? They're as sociopathic as the criminals they track down.

"...extra attention..."?!! Why that would mean that they would be taking a closer look at those that are comitting crimes!! Outrageous! Not to mention politically incorrect, in todays' chickencrap world.

Based on today's politics, you are politically correct if you are a gun-supporting Islamophobe who has no problem with violence in the name of saving unborn fetuses, but opposes any measure to take care of them after they are born.

Perhaps we need to re-evaluate what "politically correct" means these days.

DforDemocracy,

News flash this country didn't just get like this. This country has always been this way towards Indains, blacks, and hispanics. Theres just coverage of it now. Police do things like this all day in every state and have been since the birth of this country. Authority abuse is the most common thing in this country over diseases, action, spoken word, anything. Especially against manorities, because the police think to themselves nobodies going to believe a @!$%# or a spic. Thats exactly what they call us in there heads and the bold ones to our face. We are a stress outlet for them. One ran up on me and started beating me like I owed him money or slept with his wife, and this was unprovoked. I had never seen this man before in my life he was just itching to put his hands on someone for whatever reason, and he knew there was a better chance of him getting away with it if he did this to a minority. This is how it's been and this is how it's going to be. You've just become aware of it thats all while blacks and Hispanics have known about the unhanded ways of the authority of this nation since the birth. Because we've experienced it first hand and will continue to thats just the way it's been, and I don't expect any change other then white people finding themselves in that same pit as well

lets face it, if your gonna do the ghetto strut down the block with hip hop playing on your boom box and your pants hanging down below your ass, you may as well put a sign on your back that your a thug and you need to be in jail. Same with the car with chrome hanging all over it and pom poms hanging all over the inside while the radio is blasting something in some foreign language, you may as well hang a sign on the car that your looking for blondes to hook up with and you need to be picked up.... If you dress the part and act the part, guess what, your gonna be profiled...

killerteam

So no constitutional rights for minorities is what your saying in a nut shell. Your brain is washed out by ignorance. People wonder why the race card is still being played so much. Racism is racism whether your throwing racial slurs in there or not. So I guess every bald white man must be apart of a white supremacy group, every white man with long hair is a pot smoking hippie, or every women with a short hair cut is a lesbian. People that think like you are whats keeping this nation down. Get your mind right.

open y our eyes, and maybe just maybe you wont be so brainwashed by obama. He is the biggest racist along with his wife of all of them. Or dont you believe that either.... Rev Wrights church..... Not God bless America, but God damn America.... anti white preaching...... wake up dude.

Ahh.. Obama somehow found his way into the conversation. I love it! Who's anti-white? Certainly not me. I'm anti-stereotypes, anti-ignorance, anti-prejudice, etc. I'm sick and tired of closet racist placing the blame for this nations downfall on illegal immigration, minorities, and Obama. Yea they're the ones responsible for deregulations, market derivatives, subprime loans. You say anti-white preaching, but you're talking about no rights for minorities to dress how they feel and they can't customize there vehicles the way they won't without being labeled criminals. So what do you call that!?!? No dude, you wake up bud. Obama extended the age for those under there parents health insurance, made it easier to recieve foodstamps for those struggling to feed there families, and extended ui benefits. Because of these things and many others tons of both white and minorities would be out in the cold with no way to feed there families. And you call that racism. Racism is speaking ill on a black president by the millions who is just trying to help the 99%, and not daring to say a bad word about a white president that started unnecessary war while risking the lives of our troops so he and his buddies could profit. Thats what I call closet racism. When Bush was in office people got boycotted for speaking out against like it we were some communist nations. I can't wait for the day when they start profiling legal gun owners, because majority of the most catastrophic shooting crimes in the news were with legally purchased guns. We'll see what how you closet racist feel about profiling then.

typical lib.... i suppose you were inraptured by obamas recycled speach about class warfare too. If i was a cop and going down the street, i do know what to look for, and its not little old ladies walking the dog. I would be looking for what i said in my last post. You are correct that obama is the Food Stamp president because he has made sure that we keep an entitlement class in the ghetto and he has insured that we will never pay off our debt because of his adding 5 trillion to the debt in the last couple years. We are now in debt 15 trillion, and frankly dude, you can take every dime from the millionares in this country and not even come close to paying anything off. You people are just ignorant and spout the same slogans over and over but you never see the real picture... This country is hopelessly in debt and our great grandchildren will not be able to pay it off and obama is making it worse day by day.... Your president is a 1% er along with his cohort joe biden. He is a racist, and michelle is right there with him as another racist. So keep up with George Bush and all the OWS slogans, but that will never pull this country out of the socialism that this racist marxist president has brought opon us. The can profile the hell out of me and i am a proud gun owner with a permit to carry right out in the open. I will never have a problem unless some ignorant person attempts to rob me or carjack me, or break in my home, like the blacks did in chicago. I dont care about the gun laws, i care about the constitution which gives me the right to bear arms and not you or your racist black president will ever take that right away. I am 65 yrs old and have learned the hard way as to which people to watch out for and which i dont have to worry about..... So when i see someone with their pants down below their ass doing the ghetto strut, you can be damn sure i have one hand on my pistol and my eyes watching like a hawk as to what he is up to.... If you want, you can bring them to your house and feed them and clothe them and give them free healthcare all you want, but frankly i have done it all my life and it never changes...... they just wont work, and will be on welfare forever.... that goes for whites, blacks, hispanics, cause once they find out the government will support them, its all over... thats exactly why i would stop all welfare and unemployment. We have jobs galore in this area down south right now begging for people to work, but guess what.... obama gave them 99 weeks of unemployment so they are happy as a pig eating @!$%# sitting at home.....

I would have to ask what is more of a police state: 4 officers in Connecticut or the FBI and US Government bringing charges against two citizens of the same state.

If this is an issue, it should be handled within the boarders of Connecticut. This, in my opinion, is another overreach by the federal government.

And Danno makes the dumbest comment of the day, capped by an inability to spell "borders".

The NY FBI was brought in because there was too much interaction between the Ct FBI and the police. To avoid anything that looked inappropriate,they needed some outside(?) investigators. To me it's like asking Wall St. to police itself....but heck....that's only me.

Maybe you would rather have the non- police state of detroit where cops wont even go to bad neighborhoods

I was also concerned by the statement in the article about the guy who was arrested and held for videotaping an arrest. I've noticed a distinct increase in reports lately about cops arresting people who try to take pictures or video of them. When did this become illegal? Why is it okay to arrest someone for taking a picture? It just makes the cops look like they're guilty of something.

Police work for us, we should have a right to document their work as long as we don't get in the way.

Please excuse me for a typo where I did not include an 'a' in the word boarders.

My vote goes to freight train because instead of disagreeing with my statement he/she resorts to ad hom attacks. This only shows a lack of cognitive thinking.

Tell me, oh wise one, what makes this a federal case rather than a state or local case?

Johnnyt, regardless of whether the FBI from Connecticut or New York were involved, they are still a federal agency.

*cough

actually danno, you need to leave the A out of BORDERS...

oh the tricky english language...boarders, borders, boreders...

*edited to add, the last one BOREDers was a joke, it's not a real word.

Thanks, Jessica. You are correct as it refers to the border of the state. In my haste to respond, I didn't even think about what he/she was saying.

Having said that, the word "boarders" was spelled correclty. The usage was incorrect. Therefore, it was a grammatical error and not a spelling error.

I don't normally trade quips with an illiterate troll, but since you asked:

Your first sentence makes no sense at all, and I just chalked that up to a brain fart. Your second paragraph reeks of the kind of ignorance it would take to be a tea-bagger, where everything is a state issue and the federal government should just not exist at all since everything is just so peachy in each and every state.

If you do not understand the role the Federal government has played in policing discriminatory and un-Constitutional behavior by law enforcement at the state and local level over the last five decades, you know absolutely nothing about the Civil Rights movement. You are, therefore, completely unqualified to comment on the issue, but that didn't stop you.

Educate yourself, it isn't my job. My job is to laugh at stupid people, and I do it rather well.

I just love the audacity of the elitist left wing loonies such as "the freight train".

So enlightened one, where in the US Constitution does it say that matters the federal government has a role in crimes between two citizens of the same state. In this case, the police are being accused of targeting a certain population.

The US Supreme Court, prior to the liberalization that occurred since 1900, had ruled that civil rights acts at the federal level were unconstitutionall because it went beyond the jurisdiction of the federal government. Challenges after the Civil Right Act of 1964 changed the way thing were looked at because the courts basically said that the "commerce clause" now applied to states and thus the federal government gained more power in light of individual rights (which even stupid people have).

For you to tell someone with a differing opinion, which is based on the language in the US Constitution only shows the elitism and arrogance of people like you - unwilling to have a discussion with someone with whom they disagree.

Tolerant left, my A$$. Tolerant if you fall in line with my way of thinking, sure.

Six or eight people crying they were wronged and the Feds move in? Give me a break. Yet Obama's uncle who is here illegially is claiming the same thing. What a joke. East Haven's reputation as a dump is now safe. From 2007 to 2010, crime jumped. Yet a few crying makes the news.

yeah who said the cops couldn't be filmed? The gestapo like tactics are so unamerican...

Several courts have upheld the citizen's right to take pictures or video of law enforcement in the performance of their duty. Yet, in most places if you exercises that right, especially if there is police misconduct going on, you will find yourself becoming the person of interest. The PD will arrest you for "interfering with a police officer in the performance of his/her duty" even if you are standing across the street.

As for racism being the purview of the south; that is a wrong headed notion. Racism is everywhere in the US, unfortunately in upper-class bastions of old white money, say Connecticut for instance, it is insidious as it is hidden and not talked about, but carried out in a much more stealthy manner. As the charges described in this article illustrate.

If the Mexicans were not coming here illegally and commiting crimes the police wouldn't have any need to profile them. Lets hate the police officers and say a great big "WELCOME" to the ones commiting the crime of entering this country ilegally, mooching off our government and committing crimes against society.

I think this is a very, very disturbing trend. Cops work for us and should not feel the need to hide what they're doing.

Skrewd - the article never said anything about illegals. Believe it or not, not all hispanics in this country are here illegally. Some of them have even been here longer than many white Americans. They were here when people more concerned about stopping Irish and Italian immigration.

Couldn't have said it better, skrewd.

The Giligan - what was the "legal" way back when white people stole the land from the Native Americans?

or when white people stole black people and brought them here?

or when white business owners hired illegal mexicans because they were simply cheaper, and unable to complain about horrible working conditions?

seriously, the lack of morals by white people...has directly lead to our realities today.

but per usual, white people eschew their personal responsibility...all the while bellyaching about non-white people and their inability to be personally responsible.

oh the pathetic, sad ignorant irony.

sincerely, a white woman who is well aware of the priveleges my skin color has afforded me

but in other great news, white people in america ARE NOT committing crimes, according to the newsvine. only illegals, blacks and other non-white minorities are.

wow, who knew?

How about you video crimes and then send the videos to the police?

New Haven is a sanctuary city. It refuses to cooperate with Federal immigration authorities and intentionally attracts huge numbers of illegal aliens. It is estimated that illegals make up as much as 20% of the city's population.

The city government issues their own picture ID cards so that illegals can get drivers licenses and enroll in welfare programs in violation of the law. In order to ensure his continual re-election, the mayor has tried to get the state to allow illegals to vote in city elections.

Since the city began issuing these municipal ID cards three years ago, the unemployment rate has risen at twice the national rate. New Haven’s murder, assault and robbery rates have doubled and the city is now the 4th most dangerous in the United States, according to FBI statistics.

This Rev. James Manship's congregation is almost exclusively illegal.

It's the mayor and the city officials that should be arrested.

sounds alot like Tuscon AZ

Violent crime has risen along with the illegal alien population. Of course the mayor of that town being 1/2 Mexican is never going to admit that! Even Caesar Chavez ( who organized the grape pickers union in CA back in the 70's ), said that Illegal aliens will always make all Mexicans look back and that they were the scourge of Mexico.

The legal age for consent to sexual intercourse in Mexico is 12. Maybe thats why the number of anchor babies is skyrocketing. Anybody that harbors, employs or assisted ilegals in getting ID, benefits, voting rights etc.. needs to be immeadiately arrested, tried and jailed.

re is a reason that 2000year old aquaducts still provide european cities with water and whites fly to africa to dig wells. That is because one group evolved for high IQ and the other to outrun predators. This can be seen as one group had calculus before the other developed writing

Funny thing is from before hispanics counted as white when they commit crime hispanics where 19 times more likely to be gang members than whites so it shouldn't be suspicious if they get arrested 19 times more often. Mexico has an age of consent of 12 so mexican men see little girls as fair game, as do muzzies since moohamad had multiple wives under 10. Illegal invaders are a huge drain on resources a single preemie anchor baby can cost taxpayers over $200k before it leaves the hospital.

steveaae.....that's a pretty sanitized story you tell there. Last I knew, Eqypt was in Africa. It's pretty well established that some very amazing things were done in Eqypt back in the good old days!

You might also want to try a web search for The Great Library of Alexandria....you might be surprised at just how 'backward' those people were.

The Giligan....there's no doubt what he was thinking about. But generalities paint with a wide brush! And that's some of the discussion here.

And..... I think events in those areas have had a great deal of .....influence.....exerted on them. I don't pretend to know anything about the problems in Africa, but I do know a little about the history of that area and it's little wonder that things are........ the way they are.

Trying to draw parallels between Africa and CT might be difficult once you get past the fact that both are on the Planet Earth. Heck...just try comparing Greenwich to New Haven and see what you get!

Illegal? Where did some of you see that word in the article above? When people make ignorant statements like that, it just gives further proof of racism, that's alive and well, in America.

You do realize New Haven is a strong liberal and elitist stronghold..

There are people like that, unfortunately. They are matched only by those on the left who spew vitriol at the right all day long. Hate is everywhere. Open your eyes.

Illegals are the easiest to catch all you have to do is go down to the home depot and round up illegal invaders standing outside. If I drive without a liscence & insurance there will be big penalties , but illegals do it all the time

Hispanics are 19X as likely as whites to be gang members. The age of consent in mexico is 12 would you leave your 13yo relative around mexican men?

steveaae - considering all the women I know who were molested as girls, were done so by white people...I dont really think ANY RACE has the market cornored on pedophelia.

Hell, age of consent in America, wasnt always as GOOD as it is now...girls were married off, in exchange for cattle just last century...

step off your high horse pal, nothing here that is great, was done by the likes of you.

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They know what I'm talking about.

good thing they do cause no one else does since you provided no facts or info about your rant.

Ah the paranoid come out to play with this article.

Mackie- don't look behind you!

I think i am being profiled.... why should i pay to clothe, feed, provide healthcare, etc, just because i work for a living? Why should i pay for the incaration of black gangsters like the Crips, Bloods, El Rukns, and hispanic gangs like MS 13 ? If I should be made to pay for these illegals and career criminals in this country, then i want them all pulled over by being profiled.... if they fit the picture, pull their ass over and profile them. Little old ladies and well dress white and blacks are not commiting the crimes, and any stupid idiot knows the difference. If the ACLU does not like it, tough @!$%#. They are nothing but a bunch of communists anyway

There are always more white criminals in every category than non-white so your "preponderance" angel doesn't fly.

If you mean to say, a higher percentage of a particular race as represented by their overall numbers commits particular crimes in a particular area, that's fair. But still doesn't satisfy "probable cause" to say "he's Latino so he's a suspect".

That's why we have a Constitution.

BearDown... yes, there are usually more "white" but lets be honest. However, you know as well as I do that within certain geographic areas, you will have a larger percentage of one ethnicity than another. Harlem for example. Which will have the larger number of arrests, white or black? In Little Italy, white or black? Let's toss in Chinatown, white, black or Asian?

So because the largest population in any given area isn't equal, we're only allowed to arrest X number of suspects or it might be considered profiling?

Yeah there are always more white criminals! Of course! Just go to court one day and count them! Watch the new and see who gets arrested, and for murdering who and for what! Just look at Discovery or the History channel and see who's in jail. Moderator, blatant lying should be cause for banning.

XDm9mm, you're talking about two different things.

Harlem would have a much higher rate of Black arrests than non-Black (for lack of a better term). But the police wouldn't be right to assume that because you're Black in Harlem that you're likely a criminal.

The problem isn't stopping minorities, it's stopping minorities because they're minorities.

BearDown.. How so? Do YOU know the geographic area the officers worked in? I don't. I'm only noting that what one calls "racial profiling" might in fact be nothing more than the preponderance of certain demographics within a certain geographic boundary.

Loudoun County in VA for example. If stops and arrests were compared among all officers, I'm fairly certain those who routinely patrolled Herndon or certain areas of Leesburg might be accused of "racial profiling". Yes, the largest majority of people in Loudoun County is white, but the preponderance of stops in Herndon and/or Leesburg are Latino.. simply because that's where the preponderance of Latinos have chosen to live and therefore make up the majority of the population in those areas.

There are always more white criminals in every category than non-white

Wrong.

On March 11, 2005, Brian Nichols, who was on trial for rape, went on a murderous rampage at an Atlanta courthouse, shooting a judge, a court reporter, and a deputy. After his arrest, he explained that he was a “soldier on a mission” against a racially biased legal system. In jail awaiting his rape trial, he had been angry to find so many other black inmates, and he wondered how many were innocent. For him, the large number of blacks meant the legal system was “systematic slavery.”

Mr. Nichols’s views were only an extreme version of what a majority of black Americans believe. A 2003 national poll found that only 28 percent of blacks, as opposed to 66 percent of whites, thought whites and blacks receive equal treatment at the hands of the police. This widely-held view that the police are biased is not supported by the evidence. The data suggest the criminal justice system generally treats offenders of different races equally. High arrest and incarceration rates for blacks and Hispanics—and very low rates for Asians—reflect differences in crime rates, not police or justice system bias.

Taken from here: http://colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf

I base my understanding of this story on what's been reported.

some members of the department intentionally targeted Latinos for enforcement and traffic stops

XD, your definition of racial profiling is flawed. It's not that minorities are stopped. It's that minorities are targets.

So, if in your new example of Leesburg, VA, police arrest more Hispanics because that's who makes up the population, that's perfectly fine. If they arrest more Hispanics because they don't like Hispanics, distrust Hispanics, feel that all Hispanics are undocumented, that's profiling.

I'll add to that. Most white collar crimes are commited by white people. If the FBI started raiding board rooms and white suburbs all the sudden based on this information, white people would be enraged.

BearDown-3307297

There are always more white criminals in every category than non-white so your "preponderance" angel doesn't fly.

hmmm....that's funny...everytime I get the flyer that prints the names and pictures of sex offenders who live in my county - the majority of them are black

More people in a given population=more incarcerated.

I didn't put much google time in but I found that specifically in sex related charges, white people are the major offenders.

Black people have more drug charges and murders (because the 2 go hand and hand).

Go for it throw them back to mexico etc etc etc;

XDm9mm

This is why we do the investigations and look at police encounter/arrest rates relative to underlying populations in the locality in question and neighboring localities that have different demographic makeups. By statistically comparing the police encounter/arrest rates, the conviction rates, and the underlying demographics we can get a pretty good idea of who in the 'hood the cops are targeting and whether they are really the bad guys.

Now ultimately the suspect is tried by a jury of their peers so if we do see higher rates of conviction of Latino suspects then maybe there is a problem in the Latino community. But ultimately it should be up to the community to decide who and how many among their people should go to prison.

BearDown-3307297

More people in a given population=more incarcerated.

I didn't put much google time in but I found that specifically in sex related charges, white people are the major offenders.

You might google "The Color of Crime" for starters....

But give me your address. The next time I get one of these flyers, I'll send it to you.

Blacks commit WAY more crime in proportion to their numbers in society, and that's in ALL catagories - including sexual offenses.

Well aparently so. Its' not PC to expect a person of color, here illegally or not to face the consequences of their actions. We should just let them rob, steal, rape, beat, destroy anything or anyone they want. Its' a skrewd world after all.

XDm9mm ...... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh one problem with your statement ...

Herndon Is a community in Fairfax, Va ... Not Loudon ... Leesburg is in Loudon ... they are protected by two entirely different law enforcement agencies ... with the only overlap being the Virginia State police ...

Actually you need to look at the murder #s as blacks are commit more than 1/2 the murders even tho they are only 15% of the population of the US. And when you say whites commit the most crime look at the Texas 10 most wanted fugitive list to see the face of white crime. Mexicans, colombians, central americans are counted as white when they commit crimes but hispanic when they are victims.

On the Texas 10 most wanted fugitive list for today 1-24-12 every person listed as white is mestizo and belongs to mexican/colombian gangs, the most wanted is Javier Morin jr who is listed as "white" but his skin is the color of sh!t, and belongs to a mexican gang, while the whitest guy on this is not listed as white.

He was arrested for disobeying lawful orders from the cops, such as "Clear the area; this is a crime area!" and the like.

Then why was he later released without charges?

@tom343

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And you got the "disobeying a lawful order" from where again?

I couldn't find it any where in the article.

He doesn't have to "clear the area." By law, he is allowed to videotape the police. They arrested him because they are bullies and were not going to tolerate him "disrespecting" them and shedding light on their CRIMES. Hence the reason the cops were arrested.

tom343

suck up to the state much??? hoping to get a pat on the head for being a good sheeple? Oh we know, you're one of those law breaking police officers types, a traitor to the badge...hoping to spread some propaganda...

*click* ignored.

The REV was arrested for recording the police in the act of a crime...and not obeying LEO's illegal orders to stop recording them committing a crime...

Don't pretend your head is stuck in your butt and you've never seen or heard of such a video...you can read Newsvine, so you have no excuse for not seeing the crimes committed by LEO's, there are thousands of the abuse videos on the internet.

You can't be serious?

More white men in suits steal money from businesses so we should stop and search all white men in suits.

dave, please don't have kids, they'll outsmart you by age 5.

To bear down, I bet you are an OWS person? I know you are.

Hispanic is not a race, it is an ethnicity. Most Hispanics are deemed white. Law enforcement identifies only 4 races, black, white, Asian and Indian. From those races there are numerous ethnicities that fall under them.

To call this racial profiling is incorrect. This article, like most others by MSNBC, leaves me asking many questions. How was it determined they were profiling? Did they arrest more hispanics than other individuals? Did they get more complaints by the hispanic community than other communities?

Sounds like the Justice Department is trying to drum up support for Obama from the Hispanic community by throwing a few Police Officers under the bus.

Never seen a white Hispanic? Sure you have. You want a list? Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen, Tony Romo is fairly light and my favorite one to point out -- Cameron Diaz.

Aren't they all legal American citizens??

You want to see the face of white crime look at the Texas 10 most wanted fugitive list. Mexicans, colombians, central americans are counted as white when they commit crimes but hispanic when they are victims.

On the Texas 10 most wanted fugitive list for today 1-24-12 every person listed as white is mestizo and belongs to mexican/colombian gangs, the most wanted is Javier Morin jr who is listed as "white" but his skin is the color of sh!t, and belongs to a mexican gang, while the whitest guy on this is not listed as white

White people came up with this color thing to seperate the races. Its all about superiority complex one over the other. Like the king and queen over their subjects the common citizen. Satan got kicked out of heaven because he seek to be equal with God. Notice in life one race exert itself over another, but death equalize us in the bone yard. Why does police officer goes into the police force CLEAN and came out UNCLEAN when found guilty of a crime. Seem to me his record shown a good guy going in and once he's in, his deceitful heart did not know the difference between good and bad, and so he comits a crime. This has meant he had two qualities: good and bad, so how does sinners seperate the two.

Obviously, the FBI didn't get your memo.

MKB-you got that wrong. Try the white house, Congress and the senate. Then trickle down to state, county and city government. That is the nations largest criminal organizaton. Followed closely by groups like the ACLU.

Henry, the problem is that there are very few good guys in our police departments.

Actually good cops don't want to arrest anyone, they want to prevent crime, which is exactly why there is no such thing as a good cop. The minute they put on the uniform and swear their oath they become a member of an organized, ongoing, criminal activity, (ie.the suppression of the majority!THE NEEDY and SUFFERING!!) Yeah we're a Christian country Ha!

YOur an idiot. MOve to MExico. PLEASE!!!!

These illegals count as white when they commit crime. Look at the Texas 10 most wanted fugitive list to see the face of white crime. Mexicans, colombians, central americans are counted as white when they commit crimes but hispanic when they are victims. Mexico has an age of consent of 12, so be dieversified and let your 13yo girls around mexican men.

On the Texas 10 most wanted fugitive list for today 1-24-12 every person listed as white is mestizo and belongs to mexican/colombian gangs, the most wanted is Javier Morin jr who is listed as "white" but his skin is the color of sh!t, and belongs to a mexican gang, while the whitest guy on this is not listed as white

They can only arrest those commiting crimes. Hispanics are 19X more likely to be gang members than whites. The age of consent in mexico is 12 so watch hispanic men around your 13yo girls or there will be some dieversity

Never mind the illegals .. joeyc71, this had been a double century enquiry when native americans thought so too when europeans arrived.

They don't want you!They want a REAL JUROR,not a BIASED ONE!Sue the justice dept.!Sorry they havee a very strong case.

YOU LOSE!

I guess the free medical ,dental,schooling,vision, and section 8 housing we provide for them isnt enough! Yeah lets take care of their lawns now too. Give me a break!

I have cousin that has a friend who had an uncle that this one time at band camp.

You people crack me up, you hate the police untill you need them.

Joeyc71--

You are a retard. Where in MKB's comment did he indicate that this 90 year old lady in Utah was an illegal alien?

We provide vision benefits to illegal aliens? Really? Where? Did you just pull that "fact" out of your az$?

Dont forget driving without a liscence or insurance.

Abusedacademic- illegals pick 2% of our produce but 25% that are caught are on welfare so all benifits for the poor are availible to illegals that commit identity fraud.

How would an American be treated by Hispanic cops in a Hispanic country?

But what about a Hispanic cop that is stopped here in the US, perhaps by someone in his own dept.? Being Hispanic does not show nationality.

There are more white people in America, thus more white criminals. There's your fact.

Might be more white people, but the minorities populate the criminal element more so than whites ever have. It never fails to amaze me that being a criminal can be a "racial" issue. Facts are facts and the prisons are full of proof. So the next thing you'll be saying is that those convicts in prison don't belong there, even though they've committed the crime, because they're being picked on and discriminated against. The most violent and largest street gangs are minorities, such as the bloods, crips, MI-13 and so on, but I'll give you one point. The largest criminal element of the world is the Hells Angels and they are an ALL white gang. But they are outnumbered by the minority gangs when you add them up. Give them another 50 years and we'll see what happens then.

When stats clearly show that most crimes are committed by minorities in this country it makes no sense to ignore a minority person who is suspected of committing a crime because they are a minority and then wonder why the crime rate continues to increase. Minorities need to educate themselves and police themselves and hold their kids to a higher standard instead of being proud to school them in the same trade and moral values they may have grown up in. While it is possible that racial profiling does exist in some areas of this country, on a nationwide level the stats speak for themselves.

If as a cop I was investigating a crime where only Latino music was stolen, I certainly would not ignore the Latino suspects and target only the white non Latino speaking people who have no logical use nor need for Latino music. By the same token I have living in the area where one of more rapes have occurred a person of a minority race who has a history of arrests for committing these type of crimes lives in that area, I would certainly not be afraid to investigate him along with any non minority persons of interest. Of course we all know that regardless of the evidence, if the cops arrest and a jury convicts a person of minority for a crime they are all a bunch of racists and the facts be damned!

Bottom line that nearly everyone here seems to be missing while wildly jumping to their own conclusions is this, The cops are innocent until proved guilty just like anyone else who is arrested for allegedly committing a crime.

Bear Down: Google "DEA Most Wanted" and then come back with your apoligy for having insulted our intelligence. Most drug dealers are Hispanic or black. If you include bankers and lawyers then you might be closer to correct but I don't think we are talking about them just yet. Over ninety percent of the people that the DEA wants are Hispanic.

I will ask you libs this question if there is no difference between the races.... would you rather walk thru the west side of chicago at 3:00 am in the morning, or would you rather walk thru the northside at 3:00 am in the morning? You would get killed in the black neighborhood if your white, but if your black, you can go anywhere.

If I'm not mistaken, the number one cause of death for a black male under 30, is another black male.

Darrell there is a mexican biker gang that is as large or larger then the hells angels and every bit as violent. Don't remember the gang name but watched a documetary of one mexican that started out at the bottom of the gang and before he screwed up was in the top leadership. He was very up front about the number of people he murdered and the large number of other crimes he committed. aBsolutely no remorse for his crimes. Jusr sorry he got caught.

Either you're talking about the Mongals or Bandidos. These are gangs that are not world wide as are the Hells Angels.